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mikes
GinnyMiller wrote:
I live full time in a 199FKS. The interior of Riverside Retro trailers is almost completely real wood.
You've been deceived. That "birch" paneling, and most of the trim strips? It's vinyl coated something. Cabinet and drawer fronts are mostly wood, as is some of the moulding.
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mikes
It's real wood, like lauan, but what you see is vinyl, not woodgrain.
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mikes
Pictures, please, because it sounds like you have a unicorn. In this picture:
   [2016-Riverside-RV-Retro-199FKS-Kitchen] 
almost everything you see is plastic. It may not technically be vinyl, but it's not wood, it's a plastic coating printed to look like woodgrain. Cabinet doors, and drawer faces are exceptions. If you look closely, you can even see some pattern repeats. There's "knothole" with a sort of upside-down "L" shape immediately to the right of the bench seat, which is part of an easily identified pattern of 3 knots. The same pattern appears on the right side of the ceiling, where it curves. And, no, that's not because those panels were made of veneer from consecutive turns. It's because the pattern is printed. With a magnifying glass, you can even see the halftone dots.

And, here's a completely different camper, where the same pattern can be seen twice near the corner on the right. What is your job in the timber industry?
[2018-Riverside-RV-Retro-157-Travel-Trailer-Dinette-Down]
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GinnyMiller
I've deleted my post because I don't enjoy debating with strangers. All I was trying to do was help the OP. If what I have in my trailer is different than others' trailers, I didn't mean to deceive anyone. I'm done here. Peace and good day.
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mikes
Sorry I burst your bubble. I'll bet you'll never be able to look at that plastic coated lauan the same way again.
Mike
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retro195man
GinnyMiller wrote:
I've deleted my post because I don't enjoy debating with strangers. All I was trying to do was help the OP. If what I have in my trailer is different than others' trailers, I didn't mean to deceive anyone. I'm done here. Peace and good day.

Ginny, just ignore the reply. The strong delivery from Mike's is just his way he replies to most posts. Don't be discouraged from others that are on here too learn from each other. 
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mikes
Sorry if it sounded harsh, but facts are facts, and the truth should be known. The paneling is pretty high quality, but someone who claims to have "worked 20 years in the lumber industry" should be able to tell the difference between real wood and imitation. Unless that 20 years was simply selling firewood.

Ginny obviously didn't stop because she didn't "enjoy debating with strangers," because she had already done that.  She quit but because she has a hard time admitting she's wrong.

Still waiting for pictures of her real wood interior.
Mike
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GinnyMiller
mikes wrote:
Sorry if it sounded harsh, but facts are facts, and the truth should be known. The paneling is pretty high quality, but someone who claims to have "worked 20 years in the lumber industry" should be able to tell the difference between real wood and imitation. Unless that 20 years was simply selling firewood.

Ginny obviously didn't stop because she didn't "enjoy debating with strangers," because she had already done that.  She quit but because she has a hard time admitting she's wrong.

Still waiting for pictures of her real wood interior.


WOW listen to you MIKES. Were you a bully in school? Because you certainly sound like one as an "adult".
FYI, not that it's any of your business, I have a Bachelor's Degree in Forestry from Humboldt State University. I've worked both government and private forestry jobs for more than 20 years. I know what wood looks like. My eyes work and I'm not a liar. I bought my trailer used from a dealer. I don't know it's history before me.
I stopped replying because I'm not interested in nasty people like yourself. I do alot of reading in this forum and you seem to enjoy bossing people around and being mouthy. I'm done talking to you. Go ahead and have the last word. I don't care.

I wish you peace and happy trails, none the less.
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mikes
GinnyMiller wrote:

I know what wood looks like. My eyes work and I'm not a liar.
Still waiting for pictures of your wooden unicorn. Really, I'll admit it looks like wood. But that's not the issue. What the rest of us have isn't wood, it's a pattern printed on a plastic coating on low cost, lauan like paneling. I don't think you're a liar, and never said or even implied you were - I believe you think that what you see is wood. But that doesn't make it true.

It's not hard. Post pics of your wood interior which shows that it's completely different from everyone else's, instead of lashing out and attacking someone who provides evidence it isn't. I've only pointed out the inaccuracy of your claims, you are the one who's making ad hominem attacks. Have the courage of your convictions and at least try to support your point, instead of name calling. Stop making this personal, and stick to the basic facts. If anyone has been "nasty", it's you. 

"I've worked both government and private forestry jobs for more than 20 years." - OK, but what did you do? You're trying to claim some level of credibility, but if that means you only answered the phone, you've missed the target. Stop being obtuse - what exactly was your job which involved inspecting and identifying wood? Working at McDonalds doesn't qualify someone to be a USDA meat inspector.

Still awaiting pictures.
Mike
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Ralph L Staub
In case no one “gets” this thread, it perfectly describes the difference between “correctness” and “political correctness”. Mikes is “correct”. :-/
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fireblot
Mikes has corrected me a couple of times when I posted things of a technical nature involving tires and propane tanks that were not accurate. Can't say I enjoyed being corrected, but I WAS wrong and the correction was accompanied by facts, references and links that showed WHY I was wrong, delivered in a straightforward way.  Bruised ego aside, I never felt bullied and in the final analysis I was kept from delivering bad information that could be a safety hazard to other forum members.

My Retro is my first exposure to any kind of RV, and this forum has taught me a lot. I very much appreciate every post from everyone who takes the time to add something to the discussion!
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