rlcpe
Hello. My wife and I are in the process of selling our 40 ft DP and downsizing to a Retro 199fks. The post last week regarding dispoaition of wast really concrns us. According to what I read, the sinks and toilet go to the blackwater tank at 17 gal. The sho were to the Grey at 39 ga

This seems crazy backwards to me. The everyday uses go the small tank, the every other day use to the large tank. Really?
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woolfski
Long showers but the other, best use the campground facilities.  We are also looking at the 199FKS and are concerned about the small black tank and the double duty it performs.  It would make sense if the black tank had the capacity of the grey tank, that way you could go a few days without emptying it.
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rlcpe
Thanks.  I agree.  It just seems they have the heavy use going to the smallest tank, and the lesser use going to yhe large tank.  May be a killer for us.

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rlcpe
Just recievwed an e mail from Bob T at Riverside.  They are ging to start makeing the 199fks so that the kitchen sink goes to the 17 gal tank, the toilet, bath sink and shower to the 37 gal tank.  That will make this a much more useable RV.
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Retro177Kit
Good to hear Riverside is responding to customer feedback on a design issue was, frankly, a bizarre set-up.
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rlcpe
I mistated and Bob T clarrified.  There will be a 17 gal grey for the kitchen sink, a 17 gal for the bath sink and shower and a 32 gal black for the toilet.  Well more that enough capacity to last a few days.
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Ralph L Staub
Hi folks! Newbie to this site, and soon-to-be 199fks owner. This sounds like an appropriate solution to the problem. I am concerned at the placement of the kitchen grey tank possibly adding to the already beefy tongue weight when its full. That's potentially another 130 lbs on the nose, which is already 840 lbs dry without propane and batteries. All totaled, thats near a 25% tongue weight (a far cry from the recommended 10-15%). Thats asking a lot of a WD hitch. May have to store some lead lawn chairs in the back.
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mikes
Ralph L Staub wrote:
840 lbs dry without propane and batteries.
I don't think that's correct - the federal regulations for the capacity labels require that "If the vehicle is a recreation vehicle trailer and is equipped with a propane supply, the weight of full propane tanks must be included in the vehicle’s unloaded vehicle weight." Manufacturers have to measure both tongue and wheel weights with full propane to determine the legal "unloaded vehicle weight," and that's likely they number they provide in the specs. It would surprise me if the "Total Dry Weight" were measured with full tanks, but "Hitch Dry Weight" wasn't.
Mike
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Ralph L Staub
Good info, and that does relieve some of the weight. Shes still 5-10% nose heavy dry according to the specs, and all tanks are ahead of the rear axle. I'm sure it'll be fine with a WD hitch, but without it, I might well max out my trucks 930 lb tongue weight limit while only at half the tow capacity. If they toss another 136 lbs of grey water under the kitchen, that's another 136 pounds that has to be transferred on the hitch.
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